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HazZaRd
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Posted: Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 05:22 AM UTC
You Can't seem to have enough abramses, so here's another one.

I'm working on this one in between another project, so it will slowly move on
This time it's an Australian one, with the new 3 tone camo.






For those who are interested which paint´s I used, the Tan´s where mixed 50/50.


next job is to add a Filter to Make the Tan more 'Warm' ,Appropriate to the real Aus. Tan


The inspiration for the whole project.



HeavyArty
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Posted: Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 05:56 AM UTC
Looks like you are off to a good start. Very nice so far.
Tiger_213
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Posted: Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 06:40 AM UTC
I'm pretty amazed that your pre-shading showed through.

It looks good, looking forwad to seeing it weathered.
BruceJ8365
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Posted: Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 07:07 AM UTC
Very nice!

I'm surprised that they aren't the same pattern and colors as the NATO pattern. I actually like more larger areas OD sand versus the smaller splotched of red-brown in the NATO pattern.
gastec
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Posted: Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 07:17 AM UTC

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Very nice!

I'm surprised that they aren't the same pattern and colors as the NATO pattern.



Probably due to the fact that Australsian scenery is quite different from Europe/North America.

Nice start Gijs. Very cleanly applied camo work.

Gary
BruceJ8365
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Posted: Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 02:28 PM UTC

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Probably due to the fact that Australsian scenery is quite different from Europe/North America.

Gary



Jus thinking about the NATO paint is applied at the factory by robotics, just seems inefficient to repaint when they arrive. Also since replacement parts are prepainted and that'd mean a whole different production line for their spare parts.

Also defeats the purpose of all allies having a standard paint scheme in order to avoid the enemy being able to differentiate vehicles, units and countries based on their paint scheme.
Konigwolf
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Tasmania, Australia
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Posted: Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 04:02 PM UTC
Bruce, the Australian bush is VERY different colour wise from northern hemisphere forests.

HazZaRd, I'd check you colours. The green looks a little dark and the yellow is way to yellow, it should be more tanish.
jasmils
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Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 09:06 PM UTC

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Jus thinking about the NATO paint is applied at the factory by robotics, just seems inefficient to repaint when they arrive. Also since replacement parts are prepainted and that'd mean a whole different production line for their spare parts.

Also defeats the purpose of all allies having a standard paint scheme in order to avoid the enemy being able to differentiate vehicles, units and countries based on their paint scheme.



Australian M1's were acquired in CARC Sand. Then re-painted straight over the top of CARC Sand with a grey etching primer, then in the Australian Three Tone by crews in accordance to a set pattern.
All spare parts come in a CARC Green colour(not sure of the correct term). These parts are mostly the consumable items. Such as road wheels, support arms, gun sights, side skirts, tool bins, APUs, etc.

As for our M1's being in another camouflage patten, not much point doing that here as previously stated.
Natoflage stands out like the proverbial dogs balls in the Australian bush.

Nice job so far Gijs.

Cheers Jason
HazZaRd
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Posted: Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 09:16 PM UTC
Thanks guys


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HazZaRd, I'd check you colours. The green looks a little dark and the yellow is way to yellow, it should be more tanish.



Yep, i know that it the problem with these australian colors, almost cant get the right shade, i already had to strip the whole model once!
but like i said, i will correct the colors with a filter, orange for the tan color, and a yellow orche for the green.
I'm sure this will correct the color.

hliu24
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Posted: Sunday, March 16, 2014 - 03:32 AM UTC
Very nice.

Jay
chnoone
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Armed Forces Europe, United States
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Posted: Sunday, March 16, 2014 - 03:40 AM UTC
Nice build indeed ... especially the scratch work items !
.... also have might tought's on your choice of colors ... interested to see how you do it
Keep it up !

Cheers
Christopher
Adamskii
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Posted: Monday, March 17, 2014 - 12:02 AM UTC
Hello . I look forward to this build.

On the 3 colors that make up the Australian camo pattern, this is quite an old sore point for many of us. Simply put next to no one makes a completely accurate scale color version of this. Mouse house is possibly the most accurate, but you do pay for that accuracy in the form of an unusual medium (not enamel, not acrylic) and the need to "lighten" the color for scale. I did a review of their set some time ago here:

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=6096

There is a model master enamel that is quite close.. I cannot remember it ( for the sand color that a definite "pinkish hue" to it) I think might be italian armour sand or something - will dig it up if I can.

Just remember that the sand color is definitely the most difficult to match IMO, and has an obvious pink hue. I once saw and laughed at some 110 series Landrover's painted in just the pink only at Centre Squadron in Alice Springs a few decades ago, and the next day ate my hat when after driving into the sticks, then walking away from vehicle about 30 meters, turned around and only the tyres were visible! that pink matched our sunburnt country amazingly well!

There are some really good examples of Auscam vehicle models on here - Sam Dwyer is one of the Best with some great photos.

XCheck out this one by Greg Moss

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=201557#1687214

Good luck, I will watch carefully as with otheres. Australian Armour is bittersweet - unique versions of vehicles that are great subject matter , but when its not done right - it really stands out and is usually caned for it !

Adamski..

Some great reference pics here too

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=170036#1427676 THAT STUFF IS PINK I SWEAR !
mechaman
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Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Monday, December 29, 2014 - 10:36 PM UTC
What did you use for the raised hull numbers on the hull and turret? This is a Prominent feature on Australian M1A1
Ultra_aussie
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New South Wales, Australia
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Posted: Saturday, February 28, 2015 - 02:07 PM UTC
Hi Gijs, Did you end up finishing this one mate?
Jockbw
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Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Monday, March 02, 2015 - 08:03 AM UTC
Model Master - Italian Sand
pinkdolphin
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Singapore / 新加坡
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Posted: Monday, March 02, 2015 - 02:28 PM UTC
Good start.

Side note - after looking at the 3-tone coloring, something crossed my mind: when we build a "sand color" armor (e.g. a Bradley), why would it carry green-color stowage to give it's camouflage away?
HazZaRd
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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 - 03:32 PM UTC

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Hi Gijs, Did you end up finishing this one mate?



Thanks guys,

I'm busy with work and other things so modeling is on a low pitch right now, but soon I will start working on this beast again.

aristeidis
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Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 04:45 PM UTC
Really nice work and scratchbuilt! Are there any other conversions for the Aussie Abrams except the Arms Corps Models seen here? http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=232307&page=1
Ultra_aussie
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Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 05:27 PM UTC

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Hi Gijs, Did you end up finishing this one mate?



Thanks guys,

I'm busy with work and other things so modeling is on a low pitch right now, but soon I will start working on this beast again.




Yes I know what you mean... my working (and woman) saw me away from models for 10 years


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Really nice work and scratchbuilt! Are there any other conversions for the Aussie Abrams except the Arms Corps Models seen here? http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=232307&page=1



There is the full one here http://www.armscorpsmodels.com.au/ACM35853.html
The one above is an option

More Aussie stuff here too http://www.armscorpsmodels.com.au/Armour.html
aristeidis
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Posted: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - 02:41 PM UTC
New release (3 options) from Arms Corps Models concerning M1A1 AUSSIE variant for both Dragon SEP and AIM variants! Great work and stuff from Jason! http://www.armscorpsmodels.com.au/ACM35853.html
Ultra_aussie
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Posted: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - 04:03 PM UTC

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New release (3 options) from Arms Corps Models concerning M1A1 AUSSIE variant for both Dragon SEP and AIM variants! Great work and stuff from Jason! http://www.armscorpsmodels.com.au/ACM35853.html



When are you going to order and build one Ari?
aristeidis
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Posted: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - 04:16 PM UTC

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When are you going to order and build one Ari?


Already ordered but i do not know when i will start the built!
cabasner
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Nevada, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - 10:19 PM UTC
I definitely like the Aussie camo! Would love to see your tank completed...very nice work!!
HazZaRd
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Posted: Friday, October 25, 2019 - 09:39 PM UTC
aand we are back, after a long time not even thinking about modelling, i finally got back to the bench.

after the last update i added a lot more filters to correct the Tan and the Green to match the real color.
I also added the decals and a semi glos coat






chauvel
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Posted: Saturday, October 26, 2019 - 01:27 AM UTC

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Bruce, the Australian bush is VERY different colour wise from northern hemisphere forests.

HazZaRd, I'd check you colours. The green looks a little dark and the yellow is way to yellow, it should be more tanish.



Agree. The official tan part of AusCam is FS30219. Mouse House do tins of our Lustreless Olive Drab too. Even when freshly painted, the colour is very distinctively an olivey colour, not at all green